Five column limit on Items table?

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1


There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO is limited to displaying only five columns. 

Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so? Hopefully we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns is really too little for us. 

For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required Date, Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total. If you add in the line number, then that is 8 columns.


-Jev


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Hi Jev,

I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables is too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based devices like ipad etc.

Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem where the  column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage on mobile devices.

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell wrote:


There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO is limited to displaying only five columns. 

Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so? Hopefully we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns is really too little for us. 

For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required Date, Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total. If you add in the line number, then that is 8 columns.


-Jev


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 I think that the 5 column limitation is unnecessary and that it is a quick-fix limitation to ensure a consistent UI experience..  If sys admins see that the table is already too cluttered with too many columns, then it is his/her responsibility to reduce the # of columns. 

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:34:36 PM UTC+8, Aditya Duggal wrote:
Hi Jev,

I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables is too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based devices like ipad etc.

Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem where the  column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage on mobile devices.

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell wrote:


There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO is limited to displaying only five columns. 

Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so? Hopefully we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns is really too little for us. 

For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required Date, Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total. If you add in the line number, then that is 8 columns.


-Jev


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Could we switch the items table to be an actual HTML table and use the .table-condensed bootstrap table size? 

The five column limit is really killing us, can we please get this limit raised for version 4.0?

Thanks,
-Jev




On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:02:04 PM UTC-8, lxnow wrote:
 I think that the 5 column limitation is unnecessary and that it is a quick-fix limitation to ensure a consistent UI experience..  If sys admins see that the table is already too cluttered with too many columns, then it is his/her responsibility to reduce the # of columns. 

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:34:36 PM UTC+8, Aditya Duggal wrote:
Hi Jev,

I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables is too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based devices like ipad etc.

Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem where the  column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage on mobile devices.

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell wrote:


There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO is limited to displaying only five columns. 

Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so? Hopefully we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns is really too little for us. 

For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required Date, Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total. If you add in the line number, then that is 8 columns.


-Jev


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Hi Jev,

Table doesn’t seem to be a good option, given the row editor widget.

What we can do is show the first 5 fields in column layout and show the rest of the fields below as two col responsive layout:

Sr Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5

1 Value 1 Value 2 Value 3 Value 4 Value 5

 Field Label: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value
 Field Lable: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value

——

2 Value 1 Value 2 Value 3 Value 4 Value 5

 Field Label: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value
 Field Lable: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value

.
.
.

The row height will increase, but it will also keep the design responsive. What do you say?

On 31 January 2014 at 9:08:17 pm, Jev Björsell (eb...@gmail.com) wrote:

Could we switch the items table to be an actual HTML table and use
the .table-condensed bootstrap table size?

The five column limit is really killing us, can we please get this
limit
raised for version 4.0?

Thanks,
-Jev

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:02:04 PM UTC-8, lxnow wrote:

I think that the 5 column limitation is unnecessary and that
it is a
quick-fix limitation to ensure a consistent UI experience…
If sys admins
see that the table is already too cluttered with too many columns,
then it
is his/her responsibility to reduce the # of columns.

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:34:36 PM UTC+8, Aditya Duggal
wrote:

Hi Jev,

I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables
is
too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal
scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based
devices like
ipad etc.

Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem
where
the column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage
on mobile
devices.

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell
wrote:

There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO
is limited
to displaying only five columns.

Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so?
Hopefully
we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns
is really
too little for us.

For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required
Date,
Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total.
If you add in the
line number, then that is 8 columns.

-Jev

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Hi Anand,

I think this would be a good thing since as rightly pointed out 5 column limit is a big limitation, I agree that we cannot go back to the tabular form since that creates a lot of problem for mobile devices data entry and this responsive layout is much better than that and I guess that the suggested thing would remove a lot of problems of that limitation.



On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Anand Doshi <an...@erpnext.com> wrote:
Hi Jev,

Table doesn’t seem to be a good option, given the row editor widget.

What we can do is show the first 5 fields in column layout and show the rest of the fields below as two col responsive layout:

Sr   Column 1    Column 2    Column 3    Column 4    Column 5

1    Value 1     Value 2     Value 3     Value 4     Value 5

     Field Label: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value
     Field Lable: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value

——

2    Value 1     Value 2     Value 3     Value 4     Value 5

     Field Label: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value
     Field Lable: Field Value    Field Label: Field Value

.
.
.

The row height will increase, but it will also keep the design responsive. What do you say?

On 31 January 2014 at 9:08:17 pm, Jev Björsell (eb...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Could we switch the items table to be an actual HTML table and use
> the .table-condensed bootstrap table size?
>
> The five column limit is really killing us, can we please get this
> limit
> raised for version 4.0?
>
> Thanks,
> -Jev
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:02:04 PM UTC-8, lxnow wrote:
> >
> > I think that the 5 column limitation is unnecessary and that
> it is a
> > quick-fix limitation to ensure a consistent UI experience..
> If sys admins
> > see that the table is already too cluttered with too many columns,
> then it
> > is his/her responsibility to reduce the # of columns.
> >
> > On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:34:36 PM UTC+8, Aditya Duggal
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jev,
> >>
> >> I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables
> is
> >> too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal
> >> scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based
> devices like
> >> ipad etc.
> >>
> >> Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem
> where
> >> the column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage
> on mobile
> >> devices.
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO
> is limited
> >>> to displaying only five columns.
> >>>
> >>> Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so?
> Hopefully
> >>> we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns
> is really
> >>> too little for us.
> >>>
> >>> For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required
> Date,
> >>> Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total.
> If you add in the
> >>> line number, then that is 8 columns.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Jev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
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Added an issue in Framework: https://github.com/webnotes/wnframework/issues/423

Thanks,
Anand.



On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Aditya Duggal <ad…@rigpl.com> wrote:

Hi Anand,

I think this would be a good thing since as rightly pointed out 5 column limit is a big limitation, I agree that we cannot go back to the tabular form since that creates a lot of problem for mobile devices data entry and this responsive layout is much better than that and I guess that the suggested thing would remove a lot of problems of that limitation.



On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Anand Doshi <an...@erpnext.com> wrote:
Hi Jev,

Table doesn’t seem to be a good option, given the row editor widget.

What we can do is show the first 5 fields in column layout and show the rest of the fields below as two col responsive layout:

Sr Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5

1 Value 1 Value 2 Value 3 Value 4 Value 5

Field Label: Field Value Field Label: Field Value
Field Lable: Field Value Field Label: Field Value

——

2 Value 1 Value 2 Value 3 Value 4 Value 5

Field Label: Field Value Field Label: Field Value
Field Lable: Field Value Field Label: Field Value

.
.
.

The row height will increase, but it will also keep the design responsive. What do you say?

On 31 January 2014 at 9:08:17 pm, Jev Björsell (eb...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Could we switch the items table to be an actual HTML table and use
> the .table-condensed bootstrap table size?
>
> The five column limit is really killing us, can we please get this
> limit
> raised for version 4.0?
>
> Thanks,
> -Jev
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:02:04 PM UTC-8, lxnow wrote:
> >
> > I think that the 5 column limitation is unnecessary and that
> it is a
> > quick-fix limitation to ensure a consistent UI experience..
> If sys admins
> > see that the table is already too cluttered with too many columns,
> then it
> > is his/her responsibility to reduce the # of columns.
> >
> > On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:34:36 PM UTC+8, Aditya Duggal
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jev,
> >>
> >> I am with you on this issue, the 5 column limit in the child tables
> is
> >> too low, but I guess it has been entered so as to avoid the horizontal
> >> scroll bars which were difficult to deal with in touch based
> devices like
> >> ipad etc.
> >>
> >> Even I would be looking for an amicable solution to this problem
> where
> >> the column nos can be increased without disrupting the usage
> on mobile
> >> devices.
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:11:17 AM UTC+5:30, Jev Björsell
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There appears that the Items table that appears on a PO or SO
> is limited
> >>> to displaying only five columns.
> >>>
> >>> Can someone explain the technical reasons of why this is so?
> Hopefully
> >>> we can discuss how we can improve on this situation. Five columns
> is really
> >>> too little for us.
> >>>
> >>> For our needs, we really need Item Code, Item Name, Required
> Date,
> >>> Description, Qty, Unit Price (import_rate), Sub Total.
> If you add in the
> >>> line number, then that is 8 columns.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Jev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
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