@Pawan for registering to hub, its not necessary to be on frappe cloud.
Any self hosted instance also publish items to https://hubmarket.org/
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+1 or hub
Leveraging Eco-System: For the SMEs, our dear end users, generating a business is the biggest challenge. Offering them an ERP solution which will not only helps them run their businesses, but also generate some more can be deciding factor for them. This is where we leverage the eco-system. It can be game changer!
For me, it makes absolute sense to invest in the project like HUB which could helps overall community in increasing the traction for the product, and also benefits the existing user base.
Ready Backend: ERPNext HUB already has a strong technical backend, given all the investments by Frappe made over couple of months. Really surprising as there were no concerns raised earlier about the validity of the project itself.
It’s not just a technology solution. It needs oodles of marketing money to make it successful. The base ERPNext adoption has to read hundreds of thousands of users before the Hub can really explode.
If not the no. mentioned above… but I am confident that ERPNext has great no. of active user-base, counting the open source users as well… Hub will be their enter-point and we also get better estimation of our community strength.
Let’s focus on ERPNext invest all our money on the core ERPNext solution and build everything that SMBs want.
We were always ready for SMEs. Infact Enterprise features are the direction I see for the ERPNext, specially with V11. But like we all would agree, for a ERP kind of product, list of features never ends.
I vote, remain, finish, release and market Hub.
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I replicate the feeling shared by @JoEz.
I’m surprised on foundations members started voting for the Hub. No one denied the importance of Hub, the question was on priority over other issues.
I thought we were to get the list of requirements, the comparative cost of each of them and then looking at the budget prioritize them, based on comparative voting.
Guys, let’s work collectively and see all the requirements in comparison.
@Pawan: How is these two connected: frappe cloud hosting and hub? Please elaborate, I’m not understanding it clearly.
From whatever I understand, hub will allow you access to a market place from within ERPNext. This will enable you to connect with other ERPNext users to sell your products, ask for quotations etc. Hence, if you are a self-hosted user too, you may want to be a part of the ecosystem, so that you can increase your sales or purchasing capabilities.
Actually I’m not as much mad about the hub as I am (was) about how little the community is getting involved in steering the direction of the Foundation.
Sure, the current office bearers of the Foundation are too intense, think of little else all day and hence they think they know better than the rest of us. In such a scenario its easier to justify any action against inaction. They have decided to place their bets on something they thought best. My personal opinion is that the Hub is too early and needs too much money for us to spend valuable money on at this time of our evolution.
But hey, I’ve been plenty wrong in my life before and would love to hear the "We Told you so"s from this group as the Hub proves to be immensely successful.
Since we have already made the commitment, let’s as a community embrace The Hub and hope that it will, if not, be a runaway success, create the viral traction for the supply chains of our existing and future clients to embrace ERPNext.
Let’s not make the Hub just a Sales Tool. Everybody wants to sell. So everybody putting products out there to sell just creates a bazaar.
Let’s also make The Hub a buying tool. Every company has existing vendors. Which company would not like to get a more reliable vendor or a better quality product or a cheaper price?
So with just one click of a check box, let’s make it easy for SMBs to post their RFP on The Hub. That will make it a good glue for our ecosystem and people outside our ecosystem to visit The Hub! Who wouldn’t want to participate in an RFP, huh?
Bidders that are on ERPNext already should be flagged clearly and we should run campaigns that go “Ceteris paribus buy from an ERPNext user”. Other things being equal (or even slightly unequal) buy from a ERPNext user. Vendor rating should be captured and reported to make it easy for buyers. And as people transact we should charge a small convenience fee (like ₹99.00) for deals larger than ₹10K (from the seller of course).
I mean its easy to get carried away with an idea like the Hub (its too alluring, seductive and sexy), but my hunch is that till we reach hundreds of thousands of SMBs on ERPNext, it will be frustrating to transact on the Hub. There will be way too many sellers and the few RFPs that buyers float on the Hub will be unviable for the buying organizations. Much like we keep hearing on the Forum that people don’t get “good” service providers to help them.
Still let’s build The Hub and I shall fervently hope you guys are right and I’m wrong!
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+0. Hub: I just don’t get it, but we have already spent about 2/3rds of the money, so it makes sense to finish the project. (However, I will be watching for a careful analysis before any ADDITIONAL funds are requested especially for Marketing the Hub.)
But as others have pointed out, the bigger question is one of priorities. @JayRam has tackled this head-on with his Roadmap project and I will add some thoughts over there.
In the meantime, let’s let Agiliq finish their project, then test it and see if it has the potential that is hoped for.
I appreciate all the warnings and advice! We will be careful for sure. Those who don’t think the HUB should be a priority should be able to come up with an alternate roadmap. Let us hope this new effort brings some result.
From the point of view of the board, we still need moving anyways.
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@Joseph_Mueller Open Bazaar is tied to IPFS. Also may be hard to enable deeper integration at a later point.
+1 for Hub.
I think the Hub will open some, if not many, opportunities toward collaborative business for SMEs. As @JayRam mentioned, posting products (for sellers) and RFPs (for buyers) are just 2 applications. To wildly thinking, other could be collaborative projects (by posting project or task) or even a collaborative between the business and auditors (by posting the transactions to auditor).
But also as he mentioned, a centralised hub for everybody to post to will just create a bazaar… too big and too open a bazaar.
So I think Hub needs a way/option to “border” itself, maybe to same domain (for the multi-tenant version), or by way of a community ID, or else…
All in all… going forward for ERPNext is a good thing.
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What happened to Hub Marketplace?
The site https://hubmarket.org/ seems to be down
Is this plan still alive?
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Any updates? It’s also still linked on Not Found but the link is dead. Should be fixed.
A brief comment from Frappe on the state of the Hub would be helpful.
Hub will be back on the burner soon. Anyone wanted to lead this project DM me - (we have funds)
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Any updates? Two months on and the link to the marketplace is still down which isn’t ideal.
Any chance of this to be up?
or is there change in URL or plan?
Hub Marketplace is officially dead.
Do you refer in general terms to Rushabh’s post above (Update on Hub Marketplace - #23 by rmehta), or did you get some kind of personal acquiescence from him (or a deciding committee of any sort)?