Users / developers with Odoo experience, please share your feedback. ERPNext often gets compared with Odoo and it would be a good idea to prepare a list of reasons why ERPNext is better (?) than Odoo (or not).
Here is one:
- Free upgrades
Users / developers with Odoo experience, please share your feedback. ERPNext often gets compared with Odoo and it would be a good idea to prepare a list of reasons why ERPNext is better (?) than Odoo (or not).
Here is one:
++ ERPNext is a lot easier to install.
– ERPNext is lacking behind with POS and Hardware integration.
I chose ERPNext over odoo because:
I Frappe & ERPNext
Note:
I used Sales and CRM modules of openerp 7 for a year, couldn’t upgrade 7 to odoo 8 for free. So stopped using it completely. Exported / Imported Leads and Opportunities from openerp 7 into ERPNext and never looked back to openerp/odoo
Just before posting this I went through odoo 9 Demo site. Odoo now has a Desk like interface!!
I first was looking only for CRM, but then my “needs” (wants?) expanded to something more like ERP. I struggled with Odoo for nearly 2 months before arriving at (and currently testing) ERPnext. I am very excited about ERPnext and hope that as my company grows we will be able to support ERPnext and help sustain it as a fully open-source project.
Until last week I thought my only choices were Odoo & Bitrix24. But in testing, both of them disappointed me, and here’s why:
Bitrix24:
Odoo NEGATIVES:
Odoo POSITIVES:
Here’s why I’m trying ERPnext and my first impressions:
On the downside:
Features I would love to see in future iterations of ERPnext:
ERPnext team, please keep up the good work!
Peter
P.S. - Thanks for asking! Makes me like ERPnext even more.
I really love erpnext ease of install, upgrade, community support and especially it’s web interface that’s utilizing current web standard & technology…but if I can give some suggestions to awesome erpnext team & its community…to not just focus on technology, but also core functionality from business users perspective & accounting standard compliance.
Stock & Accounts module still needs many improvements on the core functionality…
ERPNext Positives (not in any particular order)-
ERPNext Areas of Improvement -
I been a provider of Openerp , but switched to ERPNext
Main reason being I like the erpnext community and I believe erpnext will always stay true to opensource and the implication of this philosophy is immense. I truly believe in human to human business and with erpnext i can practice that unlike odoo
The documentation for erpnext is less though
Thanks @Francois_Ifitwala, @revant_one, @Peter, @jof2jc, @kirthi, @vivek for your comments.
I notice that people love the fact that we are doing things in the open source spirit and also complain documentation is a common problem.
We are doing our best to update it but I also think that the true “open source” spirit is in collaboration. I would love some of those who are building businesses on erpnext to help us build a better erpnext. Fighting a lone battle is hard for us and we would love to get all the help we can (and this in turn will help you!)
We started a documentation project (Help Wanted: Spare 1 hr every week -> Fix the ERPNext Documentation) but on-one seemed to help. I hope that changes soon.
Thanks for the feedback though.
Odoo Negatives:
Proudly advertises that it includes “Gamification” throughout the product . Personally, Suicide sounds preferable to deploying a Gamified solution. To me its just web2.0 marketing speak for I don’t know anything.
I am finally launching my first ERPNext instance this week I teach the users on Thursday so big milestone. Then off on family business for 10 days then can contribute to the documentation efforts. Just don’t expect any help with chapters about Gamification.
@rmehta If the documentation were in a wiki format it would be easier to contribute. And I would like to help.
@rmetha, I tried to look at the contribution to docs but I am not that much of a developer yet and did not know how so started focusing on learning erpnext first. Would love to contribute if we can get some basic how-tos.
as for contributing code - im learning to use and customise erpnext without tinkering under the hood - I believe that is the way to test the magic of an erp system. Right now I have not got to a point where I need to go beyond custom scripts.
I had a quick squiz at odoo and felt complicated to install, I found erpnext simple to get started, even with a linux learning curve. Although dashboards would be nice or some kind of overview - but then we can do that with the rest api that erpnext provides.
regards
Hemant
@System19 good luck with your first implementation and hope you have a good vacation
@Peter, you can contribute via the Wiki and we will implement in the product here is the repo https://github.com/frappe/erpnext/tree/develop/erpnext/docs
@hpema108 Thanks for the feedback I am surprised that Odoo is such a pain to install.
Just for comparison I checked out how to contribute to odoo user docs, It is also git based. GitHub - odoo/documentation: Odoo documentation sources.
I feel ERPNext user docs contribution is simpler than odoo. Editing md files is simple.
For ERPNext developer docs I feel, the existing code is a very comprehensive and raw form of manual.
e.g How to pass a journal entry from your doctype form? checkout code of existing doctype forms passing journal entry!
+1 for ERPNext. This kind of integration with account/finance gives small business better decision making ability. I couldn’t even imagine this on odoo.
We tried to work with Odoo for a year and switched to ERPNext in july because the code is easier to work with and ERPNext is easier to customize.
Also, the communication with ERPNext and the community is much better.
i reported some issues in github manual
One thing I did like about Odoo is that I can set the system language (for example to Spanish) and then even if the users change their UI language, by default the system will print invoices, quotations and other reports in Spanish. For me that was a plus — default report and UI languages being separate.
I think instead of comparing & bench-marking with Oddo (which is more or less similar to erpNext …openbravo also belongs to this group), You guys should look ahead. Oddo is in market for 10-12 years and if a product can’t grow to a real ERP in 10-12 years, I don’t think it will ever do so.
If you guys are looking for serious business and good VC then look for below points and have a road-map.
The Basics:
Costing Method:
What are the different costing methods available: Standard, Average, LIFO, FIFO
How many cost elements can be used for cost tracking : Material, Over Head, Expense, Labor, Supplier Expense
Planning:
What are the different planning methods available : Kanban, MRP, Min Max, Re Order Point, Anything else
Purchasing:
What kind of purchase order/documents available : Standard, Long Term Blanket, Contract, VMI, Consigned Inventory
Sales :
Which types of business processes can be mapped out of the box : Standard sales, drop ship, Business to Business,
Organization Environment:
In what kind of business environment we can use it : Make to Stock, Assembly to Order, Configure to Order, Kits
Inventory:
What kind of inventory & planning categorization is available : ABC, XYZ,
Inventory accuracy management : Cycle count
Receivable:
All kind of transactions: Invoice, Debit Memo, Credit Memo, Deposit, Guarantee,
Different Type of receipts . Auto applying receipts to invoice
Payable:
Integration with expense . All payment options.
GL:
Consolidation
Intercompany and Intracompany
Project:
You just have a project functionality…but it does nothing…no cost tracking. No revenue generation)
Have a 3-5 years plan…Do some serious work and people will consider your product as an ERP. Till now it’s still a simple business application.
Hope you guys take it positively
@Inquiry_gbowen Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I think there is no end to the number of features you can add. It depends on how does the community want to take this forward. Currently this is clearly focused towards SMB and not “enterprise”.
The beauty of open source is that people who really feel the need for these features will either build them or pay for them. We hope they will contribute too.
Depends how you define SMB.
I put all in less than $30-50 m in the SMB category
Most of Oracle and SAP users are big multi billion $ companies ex : GE, Google, Facebook, Emerson all US based companies use Oracle
Where as EU based companies uses such as Siemens, etc uses SAP.
Below that comes second level of ERPs - MFGPro, Microsoft…
Most of the users are $50m to $500m
Below that there are many ERP systems but none of them is actually ERP. I mean the difference is just huge.
So if you guys are looking to trap that market segment $1m to $50m then you have a good chance but you have to come with a good product.
But if plan to be a small player serving companies with revenue in few thousand dollars then I guess you have already achieved that.
For last 2 months I have been researching on ERPs as part of my company project (in fact I had posted something on that in this forum) and this is simply my observation.
You guys have the good base to move up but it 'll depend how you learn and what path you take.
There is always a new company/person joining the race. (In fact there are couple of newer products which are already quite ahead in the game)
Best of luck!